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Dawkins, the Anti-Christian Fundamentalist/DAWKINS, EL FONAMENTALISTA ANTICRISTIÀ

Dawkins, the Anti-Christian Fundamentalist

by Peter Higgs

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Chalk dust? Peter Higgs said he was relieved at not getting the 2012 Nobel Prize because he was so busy. Below: A fossilized Dawkins: “How dare you call me a fundamentalist. No, please, do not mistake passion, which can change its mind, for fundamentalism, which never will. Passion for passion, an evangelical Christian and I may be evenly matched. But we are not equally fundamentalist. The true scientist, however passionately he may believe, in evolution for example, knows exactly what would change his mind: evidence! The fundamentalist knows that nothing will.” On religion Dawkins, of course, never changes his mind.

 

The biologist Richard Dawkins has made a second career with his hatred of religion. Physicist Peter Higgs, the creator of the God particle supposedly found this year at Cern in Geneva, calls the militant God denialist a fundamentalist:

“What Dawkins does too often is to concentrate his attack on fundamentalists. But there are many believers who are just not fundamentalists. Fundamentalism is another problem. I mean, Dawkins in a way is almost a fundamentalist himself, of another kind. The growth of our understanding of the world through science weakens some of the motivation which makes people believers. But that’s not the same thing as saying they’re incompatible. It’s just that I think some of the traditional reasons for belief, going back thousands of years, are rather undermined. But that doesn’t end the whole thing. Anybody who is a convinced but not a dogmatic believer can continue to hold his belief. It means I think you have to be rather more careful about the whole debate between science and religion than some people have been in the past. I don’t happen to be a believer myself, but maybe that’s just more a matter of my family background than that there’s any fundamental difficulty about reconciling the two. What was so overwhelming really (about the confirmation of the Higgs boson) was the response of the audience at Cern. It wasn’t like a scientific seminar, it was like the end of a football match when the home team has won, and that was what was overwhelming to me, to be a part of that. Bursting into tears was a reaction to the emotions around me and the feeling that, well, it’s arrived at last! That was hard to deal with.”

(“Peter Higgs criticises Richard Dawkins over anti-religious fundamentalism. Higgs boson theorist says he agrees with those who find Dawkins’ approach to dealing with believers embarrassing”, by Alok Jha, The Guardian, 26 December 2012)

Dawkins, el fonamentalista anticristià

per Peter Higgs

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Dawkins fossilitzat: “Com s’atreveixen a acusar-me de fonamentalista! Si us plau no confonguem passió, que pot canviar d’idea, amb fonamentalisme, que mai ho farà. Passió per passió, un Cristià Evangèlic i jo mateix som semblants , però no som igual de fonamentalistes. Un científic de veritat, per molt apassionat en el que pugui creure, per exemple l’evolució, sap perfectament el que li farà canviar d’opinió: les proves! El fonamentalista sap que res li farà canviar mai.” Sobre religió Dawkins, evidentment, mai canvia d’opinió. Primera foto: Pols de guix? Peter Higgs diu que s’alegra de no rebre el Premi Nobel 2012 perquè està massa enfeinat.

El biòleg Richard Dawkins ha fet una segona carrera del seu odi a la religió. El físic Peter Higgs, creador de la partícula de Déu suposadament trobada aquest any al Cern de Ginebra, acusa el militant negacionista de Déu de fonamentalista:

“El que Dawkins fa massa sovint és concentrar els seus atacs contra els fonamentalistes. Però hi ha molts creients que no són fonamentalistes. El fonamentalisme és una altra cosa. Vull dir, Dawkins en realitat també és gairebé un fonamentalista d’una altra mena. El creixement de la nostra comprensió del món a través de la ciència debilita alguns dels motius que fa creient a la gent. Però això no és el mateix que dir que és incompatible. El que sí em sembla és que algunes de les raons tradicionals de la creença, que es remunten a milers d’anys, han quedat bastant afeblides. Però aquí no s’acaba tot. Qualsevol que sigui un creient convençut, però no dogmàtic, pot continuar mantenint la seva creença. Però crec que cal que sigui una mica més curós en tot el debat entre ciència i religió del que alguns han estat en el passat. Personalment jo no sóc creient, encara que això és més qüestió del meu entorn familiar i no cap dificultat fonamental per reconciliar ciència i religió. El que fou realment aclaparador (de la confirmació del bosó d’Higgs), va ser la resposta dels presents al Cern. No era un seminari científic, sinó el final d’un partit de futbol quan l’equip de casa ha guanyat, i això va ser massa emocionant per a mi, el ser part de tot això. Vaig esclatar a plorar com a reacció a les emocions que m’envoltaven i a la sensació de que, per fí, hi havíem arribat per fi! Tot això em va ser difícil d’assimilar.”

(“Peter Higgs criticises Richard Dawkins over anti-religious fundamentalism. Higgs boson theorist says he agrees with those who find Dawkins’ approach to dealing with believers embarrassing”, per Alok Jha, The Guardian, 26 desembre 2012)

27 December 2012 - Posted by | Culture/Cultura, Environment/Medi ambient | ,

2 Comments »

  1. Interesting stuff. I particularly like Dawkins’ statement “…do not mistake passion, which can change its mind, for fundamentalism, which never will “. It captures in one short phrase what I have been unable to capture for so long about the Catalan movement for Independence. I am passionately opposed to this movement (but am quite willing to change my mind if someone can explain credibly what there is to gain (for Catalonia, Spain, Europe etc.) in Catalonia seperating from Spain). And I see the ultranationalists as fundamentalists. By the way, I’ve just heard on the radio that the new cabinet of the Generalitat contains no ERC member of parliament. Now that’s a bit strange, isn’t it ? I also note that the cabinet’s made up of fairly hardline nationalist – bright moderates like our Lluis Millet (ex alcalde of Sant Cugat) who had a ministry in the last cabinet, have been discarded.

    Note from the editor: You should read on! Both Higgs and myself add that Dawkins is so passionate he is a fundamentalist. The proof of the pudding will be when Catalonia is independent. It won’t be easy but without the Spanish bureaucratic and subsidised deadweight the country has great possibilities. You won’t be complaining that English will take a much more central role, at the cost of Spanish, like it has alraedy happened in Flanders at the cost of French.

    You should be familiar with governments supported from the outside. This has happened in the English Parliament and is the norm in Madrid and in Catalonia. Only three governments in Madrid have had an absolute majoriy and only one in Catalonia. In fact a coalition happened only once, in Catalonia with the Tripartit, which was an unhappy experience.

    It’s not Lluis Millet, rather Lluis Recoder. He was never very happy being a politician unfortunately. He left of his own accord.

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    Comment by Roy | 28 December 2012 | Reply

  2. Excellent piece of work! Your message will clarify the issue to anyone who reads the texts by Dawkins and Higgs carefully. Bon Any!

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    Comment by Salvador | 28 December 2012 | Reply


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